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on the fence — hands up — Screaming — went to her — she said a big ferocious man had Entered her house — Saw an umbrella man come out — I suppose he had Entered to ask for old umbrellas to mend. He Came out and Said — "Should be sorry to have such a wife". & passed on.

I distinctly remembr that Lincoln & Calhoun in 1844 had & held a joint discussion in the Court room which was in the Hoffman row — N.W. Corner of the public of the public Square: it lasted Several nights. ^[6] Calhoun was an able man. a very albe debater — & fair Courteous in debate. Lincoln was all this — the discussion was an able debate.

I rem — the Cartwright & Lincoln — don't remember any discussion at that time. Lincoln was Called by some an infidel and was charged with it in this race — don't remember whether it got in print or not — don't think he was an infidel — he used to talk to me on morals — Lincoln was a moral man.

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