Wilson, Douglas L., ed.; Davis, Rodney O., ed.; Logan, Stephen T. 'Stephen T. Logan (William H. Herndon Interview)' in 'Herndon's Informants: Letters, Interviews, and Statements About Abraham Lincoln' . Urbana: University of Illinois Press, 1998. [format: book], [genre: interview]. Permission: University of Illinois Press
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356. Stephen T. Logan (William H. Herndon Interview).

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Logan ^[1]

Jud Cook Pamer Gullaspee & Baker held out. ^[2] Gullaspie voted for Cyrus Edwards. I had heard that Madisin ^[3] would be elected the next ballot Some of Archibald Williams friends Came to me and wanted me to give Judge Williams a Complimentary vote — I could not do So, as it was certain that Lincoln would be defeated and Matteson would be elected. I went to Lincoln & said to him — "The next ballott — Matteson will be Elected if we stick to you: It is Matteson or Trubull — " Lincoln thought that his men could draw the minority in the Anti Nebrask party to him but he was mistaken. Lincoln said [however?] "I am for Trumbull." Lincoln did not like the turn thing had taken: he was cut and mortified. Some of our old whigs — 2 or 3 of them would have gone for Mattison on the next ballot. There was an agreement between Some of the democrats that at a certain ballot they should drop Matteson and run Shields — I had determined to beat Matteson

During that canvass — race, Mr Lincoln was in a fix — Lovejoy and others in the Legislature: they wanted Lincoln to say that he would go for the doctrine that there should be no Slavery in the Territories: Lincoln came to me and asked me about the matter, Saying to me Knowing my politics, will it tramp your toes — I Said "No — whatever you do, though I don't agree to the doctrine it won't tread on my toes. Lincoln made the pledge. Lincoln and I had supported the wilmot proviso, but this pledge was broader — more radical —

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