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Wilson, Douglas L., ed.; Davis, Rodney O., ed.; Speed, Joshua F. 'AL to Joshua F. Speed' in 'Herndon's Informants: Letters, Interviews, and Statements About Abraham Lincoln' . Urbana: University of Illinois Press, 1998. [format: book], [genre: letter]. Permission: University of Illinois Press
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36. AL to Joshua F. Speed [1].

Springfield, Aug. 24th 1855.

[Enclosure]

Dear Speed:

You know what a poor correspondent I am. Ever since I received your very agreeable letter of the 22d of May — I have been intending to write you in answer to it — You suggest that in political action now, you and I would differ — suppose we would; not quite as much, however, as you may think. You know I dislike slavery; and you fully admit the abstract wrong of it. So far there is no cause of difference. But you say that sooner than yield your legal right to the slave — especially at the bidding of those who are not themselves interested, you would see the union dissolved — I am not aware that any one is bidding you yield that right, very certainly I am not. I leave that matter entirely to yourself. I also acknowledge your rights and my obligations under the constitution, in regard to your slaves. I confess I hate to see the poor creatures hunted down; and caught, and carried back to their stripes, and unrenewed [2] toils; but I bite my lips, and keep quiet. In 1841, you and I had together a tedious low-water trip, on a steamboat from Louisville to St Louis — You may remember, as I well do, that from Louisville to the mouth of the Ohio, there were, on board, ten or a dozen slaves, shackled together with irons. That sight was a continual torment to me; and I see something

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like it every time I touch the Ohio, or any other slave border. It is not fair for you to assume, that I have no interest in a thing which has, and continually exercises the power of making me miserable. You ought rather to appreciate how much the great body of the Northern people do crucify their feelings, in order to maintain their loyalty to the constitution and the Union. I do oppose the extension of slavery, because my judgment and feelings so prompt me, and I am under no obligations to the contrary. If for this you and I must differ, differ we must — You say if you were president, you would send an army and hang the leaders of the Missouri outrages upon the Kansas elections; Still, if Kansas fairly votes herself a slave state, she must be admitted, or the Union must be dissolved — But how if she votes herself a slave state unfairly, that is, by the very means for which you say you would hang men? Must she still be admitted, or the Union dissolved? That will be the phase of the question when it first becomes a practical one. In your assuption that there may be a fair decision of the slavery question in Kansas, I plainly see you and I would differ about the Nebraska law — I look upon that enactment not as a law, but a violence from the beginning. It was conceived in violence, is maintained in violence and is being executed in violence — I say it was conceived in violence because the destruction of the Missouri Compromise, under the circumstances, was nothing less than violence. It was passed in violence, because it could not have passed at all but for the votes of many members, in violence of the known will of their constituents. It is maintained in violence, because the elections since, clearly demand its repeal, and the demand is openly disregarded.

You say men ought to be hung for the way they are executing that law; and I say the way it is being executed is quite as good as any of its antecedents. It is being executed in the precise way which was intended from the first; else why does no Nebraska man express astonishment or condemnation? Poor Reeder is the only public man who has been silly enough to believe that anything like fairness was ever intended; and he has been bravely undeceived.

That Kansas will form a slave constituion, and, with it, will ask to be admitted into the Union, I take to be an already settled question; and so settled by the very means you so pointedly condemn — By every principle of law, ever held by any court, North or South, every negro taken to Kansas is free; yet in utter disregard of this — in the spirit of violence merely — that beautiful Legislature gravely passes a law to hang any man who shall venture to inform a negro of his legal rights — This is the substance, and real object of the law — If, like Haman, they should hang upon the gallows of their own building, I shall not be among the mourners for their fate. In my humble sphere I shall advocate the restoration of the Missouri Compromise, so long as Kansas remains a territory, and when, by all these foul means, it seeks to come into the Union as a slave state, I shall oppose it — I am very loth, in any case, to withold my assent to the enjoyment of property acquired, or located, in good faith; but I do not admit that good faith, in taking a negro to Kansas, to be held in slavery, is a possibility with any man. Any man who has sense enough to be the controller of his own property, has too much sense to misunderstand the outrageous character of the whole

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Nebrask business. But I digress — In my opposition to the admission of Kansas I shall have some company; but we may be beaten. If we are, I shall not, on that account, attempt to dissolve the union. On the contrary, if we succeed, there will be enough of us to take care of the union. I think it probable, however, we shall be beaten. Standing as a unit among yourselves, you can, directly and indirectly, bribe enough of our men to carry the day — as you could on the open proposition to establish monarchy. Get hold of some man in the north whose position and ability is such, that he can make the support of your measure — whatever it may be — a democratic party necessity, and the thing is done. Appropos of this, let me tell you an anecdote — Douglas introduced the Nebrask bill in January — In February afterwards, there was a called session of the Illinois Legislature — Of the one hundred members composing the two branches of that body, about seventy were democrats. These latter held a caucus, in which the Nebraska bill was talked of, if not formally discussed — It was thereby discovered that just three and no more, were in favor of the measure — In a day or two Douglas' orders came on to have resolutions passed approving the bill; and they were passed by large majorities!!! The truth of this is vouched for by a bolting democratic member — The masses too, democratic as well as Whig, were even, nearer unanimous against it; but as soon as the party necessity of supporting it, became apparent, the way the democracy began to see the wisdom and justice of it, was perfectly astonishing.

You say if Kansas fairly votes herself a free state, as a christian you will rather rejoice at it. All decent slave-holders talk that way; and I do not doubt their candor — But they never vote that way. Although in a private letter, or conversation, you will express your preference that Kansas shall be free, you would vote for no man for Congress who would say the same thing publicly. No such man could be elected from any district in any slave state. You think Stringfellow & Co., ought to be hung; and yet, at the next presidential election you will vote for the exact type and representative of Stringfellow. The Slave-breeders and slave-traders, are a small, odious and detested class, among you; and yet in politics, they dictate the course of all of you, and are as completely your masters, as your are the masters of your own negroes. You enquire where I now Stand — That is a disputed point — I think, I am a whig; but others say there are no whigs, and that I am an abolitionist. When I was at Washington I voted for the Wilmot-Proviso as good as forty times, and I never heard of any one attempting to unwhig me for that. I now do no more than oppose the extension of slavery. I am not a Know-Nothing — That is certain — How could I be? How can anyone who abhors the apprehension of negroes, be in favor of degrading classes of white people? Our progress in degeneracy appears to me to be pretty rapid. As a nation, we began by declaring that "all men are created equal." We now practically read it "all men are created equal, except negroes. When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and catholics." When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where the make no pretense of loveing liberty — To Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure and without the base alloy of hypocricy.

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Mary will probably pass a day or two in Louisville in October — My kindest regards to Mrs. Speed — On the leading subject of this letter, I have more of her sympathy, than I have of yours — and yet let say I am

Your friend forever
A. Lincoln

Library of Congress: Herndon-Weik Collection. Manuscript Division. Library of Congress. Washington, D.C. 2200; Huntington Library: LN2408, 3:493 (letter); Huntington Library: LN2408, 3:493 — 50 (enclosure)

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Wilson, Douglas L., ed.; Davis, Rodney O., ed.; Speed, Joshua F. 'AL to Joshua F. Speed' in 'Herndon's Informants: Letters, Interviews, and Statements About Abraham Lincoln' . Urbana: University of Illinois Press, 1998. [format: book], [genre: letter]. Permission: University of Illinois Press
Persistent link to this document: http://lincoln.lib.niu.edu/file.php?file=herndon052b.html
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